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Message par Nick_Karatzides Ven 7 Juin 2013 - 11:57

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 scratchbuild model

The text following is to describe the 1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 (1953 version) glider model building, as produced by aviation factories throughout Poland.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0001_zps4hkjvmgc

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Message par Nick_Karatzides Ven 7 Juin 2013 - 11:59

CHAPTER I - Today, the scratch building died

Spartans refused to improve their long range weapons, because they always wanted to fight close to their opponent. That's why they had short length swords aka “xiphos”. Plutarch mentions in his "Lakonic Sayings" that when sometime an improved version of bow that could launch arrows farther to kill enemies from afar without risking presented to Spartan king Agesilaus, he replied: "Today the prowess died". This saying of the Spartan king Agesilaus came to my mind when I first heard about the 3D printers a few years ago and consider about the potential applications on scale modelling. For those who choose to deal with scratch building, the free access to 3D printer technology and the ability to create complete models or parts of a model using their home PC or laptop and CAD software rather building by hand, marks a new era in scale modelling. It is more than obvious that the time we spent to build from scratch using styrene sheet and X-Acto knife only, had ended and maybe in a few years there will be no more. It looks like "today, the scratch building died"

On the other hand, we (as open minded scale modelers) could consider the 3D printing technology introduction into scale modelling and free access to the average modeller as an evolution in the hobby and a creative tool that helps us to build better and more realistic models. Certainly the new technologies and gadget tools in the hands of talented enthusiasts open new horizons and provide wide potentials on scale model building. If we had refused to take advantage of new tools, new incoming materials & resources offered by technology so far, we would never use airbrushes & air compressors for paint applying, we would never use pigments for weathering effects, we would never use new style micro tools & drilling devices, we would never use internet for know-how sources accessing and we would never exchange opinions through this forum.

Having all the above in mind, I named the CAD & 3D printing as a “new tool in my pocket” (instead of “cheating”) from now on and I¢ll try to discover all possible alternative ways that could be used for best results. The modern scale modeller, except being a creative builder & talented painter, should also be familiar with other scientific fields such as:

  • History,
  • Architecture,
  • Aviation engineering,
  • Military tactics,
  • Photography,
  • Article writing, etc, etc, etc.


...so, why not adding the CAD - Computer Aided Design & 3D printing skills?

For those who might rush to say that this project is not a "scratch build", because the model did not actually "built by bare hands", I would answer as follows:

Try to build your next model...

  • Without using pliers, nippers & special scribers or knife blades. Just use fingers only.
  • Without using specialized CA superglue, putty & epoxy products. Just use Mother Nature products only.
  • Without using books or internet resources to get info about how the actual thing looked like. Just guess.
  • Without using any kind of resin or photoetched aftermarket products, without even use styrene card as normaly found in local hobbyshop.
  • Without using an airbrush, an air supply compressor & paint jars found on local hobby shop shelves. Just use Mother Nature products only.
  • Without using stencils or water transfered decals. Make your own decals - without using a photocopier or a printer, ofcourse.
  • Without using the latest products of AK series for weathering, rusting & dusting the finish on your scale model.


What I¢m trying here to say is that, just because it seems nearly impossible to imagine our hobby without the above stuff, just because the combination of "tools" plus "talent" plus "creativity" equals great building results, yes I believe that the 3D printing technology is actually in front of us and it will become a precious tool in hands of scale modeler. A new era is already here.


Maybe, it's about time for Spartan king Agesilaus, to reconsider his views...


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Message par Nick_Karatzides Ven 7 Juin 2013 - 12:01

CHAPTER II - Meeting the Salamandra glider

WWS” is an abbreviation of "Wojskowe Warsztaty Szybowcowe" (meaning “Military Gliding Workshops” in Polish language), based in Krakow, Poland. Founded on 1935 by Waclaw Czerwinski who had taken over the management. The MRP-1 Salamandra project, was the first project which was created under his leadership. The Salamandra was a training glider, who had excellent flying characteristics, so that it was decided very quickly to take over in mass production in various workshops throughout Poland. Before the WWII, the Salamandra glider was also built under license in Yugoslavia and after 1943, the "Salamandra" was also produced in Romania. After the WWII, the production started again with a re-engineered version made from the “IS” which is an abbreviation of “Instytucie Szybownictwa (meaning “Gliding Institute” in Polish language), under the name Warszawa IS-A Salamandra. During the 1950ies, the Salamandra glider has been built in China, where a two-seater version was also created. Around 500 Salamandra gliders have been built around the World, up to date.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0004_zpsshwdsmz2

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0005_zpst8ve51hf

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0006_zpsxsa8umk9

The glider was also known by nickname "Czuwaj" among the Hungarian Boy Scout Association, which was the Polish version of the standard Boy Scout motto.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0007_zpssjfeatem

The WWS-1 Salamandra glider, also inspired the Finnish Pik-5 design. The Yugoslavian built version was developed by engineer Ivan Šoštarić in 1939 and built by UTVA Panćevo factory as “Šoštarić UTVA Čavka”. After the end of WWII, the Yugoslavian built “Čavka” model was widely used in Greece and became very popular among the glider aviators. Both Athens aeroclub based at Tatoi airfield and Edessa aeroclub based at Panagitsa airfield, used these gliders for young aviator training purposes.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0008_zpsnztd5ee9

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0009_zpsavipnojj

Construction of the Salamandra glider was entirely of wood with fabric covering on wings and tail unit. The fuselage consisted of a plywood covered nacelle for the single seat cockpit, with a wire-braced open strut rear fuselage supporting the cruciform style tail-unit. The high mounted wire braced wings were supported by struts from the bottom of the fuselage to approx 1/5 span. Later versions introduced windscreens and airbrakes in the wings. Wooden skids under the tail and fuselage nacelle comprised the undercariage.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0010_zpsin6gamzc

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0011_zpsolbftg2a

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0012_zpscbgjf3ow

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0013_zpsi57kkl7m

The technical data & general characteristics are:

  • Type designation: Wojskowe Warsztaty Szybowcowe WWS-1 / Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra,
  • Usage: Solo training glider,
  • Crew: 1 pilot,
  • Year of first construction: 1935,
  • Country of production: Poland, Yugoslavia, Romania, China,
  • Length: 21 ft 3 in (6.48 m),
  • Height: 7 ft 6 in (2.30 m),
  • Wing span: 40 ft 11 in (12.48 m.),
  • Wing area: 16.9 m² (182 ft²),
  • Wing profile: Göttingen 378,
  • Aspect ratio: 9.2 / 1,
  • Empty weight: 309 lb (140 kg),
  • Gross weight: 496 lb (225 kg),
  • Maximum speed: 93 mph (150 km/h),
  • Stall speed: 24 mph (38.5 km/h),
  • Maximum glide ratio: 15.2 / 1 at 56 km/h (30 kts / 35 mph),
  • Rate of sink: 159.5 ft/min (0.81 m/s).


1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0014_zpsnqhs6zie

On 1967, Joseph Borzęcki converted a Salamandra to a motorized glider, equipped with a VolksWagen car engine 21 kW (28 hp) and named it "Cirrus". That specific motorized glider version, seemed very interesting to build under scale, but unfortunately I found out about it too late - I had already built the cabin and it was to risky to try convert the nose section in order house an engine.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0015_zpsyxdggmpq

Most noticeable differences with the primary 1935 built WWS-1 model, are the presence of the retractable airbrakes on the upper side of wings and the squared tips of the elevator fins, as seen into following picture.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0016_zpss8xa3sqc


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CHAPTER III - Converting Mbytes into actual model parts

Before start building a new scale model, I always try to study as much as possible the object of construction. If books, technical manuals and detailed walkaround photos are available, that will help a lot the model building process. To know how it works and how exactly it is made on real aircraft, always helps to build the scale model. During the study that preceded this model construction, I noticed that the WWS-1 / IS-A glider is quite popular among the RC modelers, who use specific patterns to cut balsa wood and prepare their RC model parts. These patterns seem to be identical to the real glider construction frame, as found into a copy of the official technical manual, purchased from Krakow aviation museum.

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1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0018_zpsstoyrv9j

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0019_zpsoirnw066

The building attempt, would not be successful without help from Mr. Ivo Mikač from Czech Republic, who kindly provided me with all info and the 3D plans he had previously create. Because these 3D plans were made for RC modeling purposes, I had to convert & detail them into something that could be much closer to my needs for “static” scale modeling. So, I spent few hours in front of my laptop, to scale down into correct 1/18 size and digitally cut (within a hundredth of a millimeter accuracy) the glider¢s compartments into virtual pieces, detail & improve the plans, having always in mind that the later printed parts, should perfectly fit and finally become a fine scale model.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0020_zpsgrt4bzq2

After converting the 3D plans as required and double check for possible mistakes, I saved it as a digital file and forward it on a 3D printer to start generating the individual parts of the model. Shortly thereafter, the printing proceeding outcome pleased me, while watching the Mbytes, magically converting into actual items. Yeah, that¢s what I call “cool gadgets” on scale modeler¢s service.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0021_zpshzafogsi

As seen in the following pictures, as soon as the produced parts were cleaned, I checked for broken parts & imperfections. The model now consists of only a few parts, found into three (cabin, wings & tail) basic frame sections. Some additional details such as wings supporting rods, control bars & wires etc made of styrene, will be later added.

  • Cabin with separate rudder pedals & control stick,
  • Left & right wings with separate left & right ailerons,
  • Elevator with separate left & right fins and stabilizer with separate rudder fin.


1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0022_zpsniumr66y

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0023_zps2rhx9zln

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0024_zpsamkspn1d

After my sweetheart wife (aka “4-star General in home” & “family's financial director”) conducted a strict quality control and 3D printing result evaluation, she smiled & proudly signaled green light for further building. After each section was dry fit tested to ensure that anything can be combined together as one piece, the parts forwarded for assembly.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0025_zpsf1y9qtwj

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0026_zpsnqueblvu


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CHAPTER IV - Attempting to join the basic parts

As soon as the individual scale model¢s parts were already produced, cleaned & dry fit tested, I had to assemble everything as one piece, without damaging the frame construction. Just because the Salamandra was entirely constructed of wood, I decided that its much better to assemble all model¢s parts first, sand if required and later apply paint and weathering effects as a final touch. During assembling process, everything was secured in place & glued with CA liquid adhesive superglue, which found at local market for 0.16 ¤ per tube (each 12-tubes card, costs 2 ¤ only). It does bonds in only few seconds, reaches extremely strength at room temperature and it is suitable for materials such as wood, rubber, plastic, metal, ceramics, leather, marble, polyethylene, polypropylene, teflon etc. Once I´ve tried this CA superglue on my scale models, I¢ve never go back.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0027_zpsa6e6uv8n

Following the 1/18 scale printed diagrams and using a new sharp Nr 11 stainless steel surgical blade and 4x4 mm sectioned styrene rod, it only took about 2 minutes to prepare the basic tail boom frame. The supporting frame consists of two 228 mm long beams that join the front compartment (cabin & wings), with rear part (tail elevator & stabilizer fins).

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0028_zpsbjfy941v

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0029_zps0tkjjgzg

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0030_zpsx3ie0fgm

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0031_zpsbmldk39t

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0032_zpsn7lo9lcp

The only piece that remained without gluing, is the tail rudder fin which will be set in place after paint. The glider model¢s wingspan is now fully developed and looking really big as it is spreading lazily all over my working bench - approx 70 cm from one wingtip to the other.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0033_zpsldzj4axx

Some tiny gaps between the parts connections, were filled with putty, applied with an old brush. As soon as the joints between the cabin, wings & tail boom parts were securely glued with CA superglue and later filled with putty on tiny gaps, it was carefully sanded with nail files & sanding sponge block, found at the local beauty care shop - the only good moment when following wife on her shopping. They are cheaper than dirt, since each nail file cost ¤ 0.1 (each 10-nail files card, costs ¤ 1 only) and the sanding sponge cost ¤ 0.5 per block.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0034_zpsbvfvj16s

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0035_zpsqkg2gw8w

When it looked OK to me, the whole model was sprayed over with Humbrol acrylic primer to spot any mistakes and placed into a box to wait the final paint applying.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0036_zpsd0v7cggb


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Message par gem8 Ven 7 Juin 2013 - 22:16

Great job, congraluations......

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Message par Nick_Karatzides Sam 8 Juin 2013 - 19:10

CHAPTER V - Applying paint, wash & weather effects

As soon as the Humbrol light grey acrylic primer dried, the model washed with liquid soap and warm water to disappear leaving oil traces, fingertips etc. Usually, there are two available options for a scale modeler, to apply paint on a model:

  • Paint the individual parts first and assemble the scale model later, or
  • Assemble the scale model parts first and paint the overall built model later.


While planing this 1/18 scale IS-A Salamandra model building, the 2nd option seemed as more appropriate and would make my job much easier. A really good reason to stick on this option, is the fact that the Salamadra glider's main frame was entirely constructed of wood. Ofcourse, fabric was covering the wings & tail and plywood was covering the cabin¢s nacelle as well. But, since I had in mind to build this model as an artistic "cutaway" view, presented on its wooden frame only, I had no reason to avoid an overall wood colour tones painting.

1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0037_zpsvxweb2jc

Replicating wood is one of those feared tasks in modeling that many try to avoid at all costs. Having a couple of different methods in mind to simulate wood in scale, but knowing that the following method is much accurate and easier to re-do if something goes wrong, I found good idea to follow some tricks I learned from other builders and changing things that works for me. To simulate the look of rough wood from which was made the glider's frame, I first applied a background colour. I split the areas to be painted in different categories and sprayed four different primary colors on each area. I used the following colors, which seemed to work OK for me, for the basic background. It is important to use an acrylic base colour because it is chemically impervious to the steps that follow.

  • FS31643 "Matt Flesh Carnicino" available by Life Color as LC21 acrylic,
  • FS30400 "German Desert Yellow" available by Life Color as UA084 acrylic,
  • FS30257 "Sand Yellow RLM79VAR" available by Life Color as UA081 acrylic and
  • FS30140 "US Brown Marrone" available by Life Color as UA085 acrylic.


1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0038_zpsqxfzkjnx

Because the wood composition and quality was not the same everywhere, I also use the Life Color's "Weathered Wood" 6-pack set and repeatedly covered some areas with different shades of very very very diluted & light layers over the previously applied base colours. To do so, I used the following:

  • Life Color UA717 "Wood Cold light base" acrylic,
  • Life Color UA718 "Wood Cold light shade" acrylic,
  • Life Color UA715 "Wood Warm light shade" acrylic,
  • Life Color UA716 "Wood Warm light shade 2" acrylic,
  • Life Color UA714 "Wood Warm light base" acrylic and
  • Life Color UA713 "Wood Warm dark shade" acrylic.


1/18 scale Instytucie Szybownictwa IS-A Salamandra 53 IMAGE_0039_zpsex5bankd

I'm not really sure if it is actually vissible into following pictures, but repeatedly applied very diluted & light layers, resulted more natural look of wood shades, without even aplly any oil colours yet. The first applied base colours, are visible under the later applied layers of the "Weathered Wood" shades, setting a base for the next process.

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Message par Nick_Karatzides Sam 8 Juin 2013 - 19:43

NOTICE: A forum member (the name of whom is not required to be published for the moment), sent me a personal message with the following questions. I decided to answer public, because I think that more forum members might be interested.

1) which CAD do you use ?
I'm not using one software only. Sometimes creating a CAD file, requires cooperation of several programs. If you start using simple software you can usually buy cheap or even get free, shortly you will become able to use more complicated software and create almost everything. For me, the AutoCAD is the Mother of all.

2) do you have to sandpaper the surfaces ?
Hmmm... maybe this question should be rephrased as "...How smooth are the parts?..." Well, the nowdays 3D printers are not perfect, and most of the 3D printed objects tend to have a finely ridged surface resulting from the resolution of the nozzle laying down the plastic. But I think its all about the injecting matterial too. For example, if you use the most cheap resin matterial, yes parts need some extra finishing sanding work. On the other hand, if you use more sophisticated matterials like acrylic based polymers or special V-cured acrylic plastics that can print fine details, give a smooth, translucent & slightly shiny result, you ll be amazed. Maybe its too early, but in a few years - much earlier than we all think - the 3D products quality will be excellent.

3) which is the smallest scale that would fit the definition of your 3D printer ? ok for 1/48 , 1/72 planes in your opinion ? Even for the grooves ?
Wrong question again. The correct question could be "...What is the smallest size of a printable object?...". Well, as far as I know (I m not professional on 3D printing) and I hope I'm not wrong, the smallest size a 3D printer can produce, is about 7/10 of a milimeter. So, if you like for example to build a part in 1/72 scale, calculate how thick / wide / long it is in reality, devide it by 72 and if result is more than 7/10 of a milimeter, I believe that yes, it could be 3D printed.

4) do you think your 3D file could be shared without problem of copyrigth from the constructor of the glider ?
Any CAD file is copyright of its own designer. If a designer accepts to provide files for free, go ahead. I've seen some excellent CAD models that really took my breath away. Unfortunately, the vast majority of them were NOT 3D printable! Just because a designer has managed to create a wonderfuli CAD model for use in 3D animation, or a computer based game or else, it doesn't actually means that this specific file can be 3D printed and be generated into a real life object! I will not go into technical details that may be tedious and boring, but this is precisely the greatest difficulty for a designer who creates a file to later become printable under scale. To build from scratch a CAD file that can be later printed as an actual object, with accurate on scale volumetric proportions, is not rocket engineer ofcourse, but its not a piece of cake also.

5) would you accept to share your file ?
Sorry, no! Knowledge & friendly ideas are for free - hard work result is not.


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Message par froggySeven Dim 9 Juin 2013 - 14:21

Thanks a lot for your detailed answers !!!!!!

But about the "licence" : Does the constructor of your glider still exist ?
(If it's your aim or not) do you know if you could market your model without problem of licence ???


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Message par Nick_Karatzides Dim 9 Juin 2013 - 18:05

froggySeven a écrit:But about the "licence" : Does the constructor of your glider still exist ? (If it's your aim or not) do you know if you could market your model without problem of licence ???
Mr. "mysterious forum member",

Yes, now its all clear to me. Now, I can see the real picture behind the aptly written cunning questions you sent me with PM. At first I thought your questions was absolutely innocent and that you simply would like to learn more info about how 3D printers operate. But I see now, that you have other plans in mind, don't you? Well Mr. "mysterious forum member", let me repeat - in case you didn't read in previous paragraph - that "...any CAD file is copyright of its own designer. If a designer accepts to provide files for free, go ahead...". That, in simple words means that if you need any (printable or not printable) CAD file from other designer, you 'll have to ask his kind permission to use it OR buy it!

NOTICE: If this CAD file is "not-3D printable", you'll need to convert it to "3D printable", by your own.

In the hypothetical case that the original CAD designer accept to provide you free OR sell a CAD file, that means that you can ONLY use it for your own purposes only - NOT "market" it (as YOU wrote)! If you really need to "market" (as YOU wrote) and make money from others CAD designer's hard work, go ahead and play with Law's fire. You asked me once, you asked me twice and I see that you keep asking if it could be possible to provide to you MY work or other people's work. Well, the answer is "NO"! Can not get it? Jesus!
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Message par froggySeven Dim 9 Juin 2013 - 19:35

I am REALLY SORRY to be misunderstood.
In fact, you're right when you guess it's not only the technical side that interests me (even when it interests me a lot and found what you've done amazing !!!!!).
It's my fault : I am quite ill at ease in English... and lazy...so I asked you questions without their context.
Moreover, I don't pretend this context will interest you. Now I have no choice, but to explain you this context...

"I have a dream !" Wink I am not a baba-cool at all, just a fan of Linux/Ubuntu,
and I dream that amateurs could built together and share 3D printable freeware CAD files.
It would be freeware files, so every body could use the file to improve it, modify it to make different versions, and so on...

But the main problem is that it should be legal, what concerns the rights of the real-plane manufacturer.
It's OK for a german V1 or V2 for instance... But is it possible with a Spitfire (THAT would be fantastic !) ?
It's difficult to have information about this ( how to be sure there is no copyright about a plane ? )
I was only wondering if you could have such information...
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Message par Nick_Karatzides Lun 10 Juin 2013 - 1:17

Studying the available photos I have, whether from my visit to the Polish aviation museum Krakow, Poland or pictures came from individuals who have built IS-A replicas around the World, I noticed that some of the metal parts ie control surfaces rods and cockpit levers, are painted with a green colour, which looks much alike the green that Soviets used to paint their jet fighter cockpits. To be honest, since all the 60 - 70 years old pictures are B&W, I'm not really sure if the actual IS-A gliders had these parts painted green, or if its just a practice by modern replica manufacturers. I decided for artistic reasons only and without being able check this feature authenticity, to paint these levers & rods with mentioned green colour. To do so, I used the FS24115 "Bright Green RLM" available by Life Color as UA055 acrylic and later blend it, to look brighter on middle areas, spraying much diluted FS30257 "Sand Yellow RLM79VAR" available by Life Color as UA081 acrylic, just not to look too dull.

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After the green parts painting & lighting, I repeatedly sprayed a very diluted mixture of thinner, Life Color UA717 "Wood Cold light base" acrylic and Life Color UA716 "Wood Warm light shade 2" acrylic at a ratio of 90% - 5% - 5%, over selected areas such as the wings leading edges and a few other points, that should look more enlightened.

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  • THE FACT: Nowdays 3D printers are not perfect yet and may leave traces that look like finely ridged surface. Its a result from the resolution of the nozzle laying down the plastic, especially when no acrylic based polymers or V-cured acrylic plastics are used. These special matterials can print fine details, give a smooth & slightly shiny result, but for the moment, cost more.
  • THE BAD NEWS: I did the stupidity to use the cheap matterial, in order to keep low the printing cost. And yes, these 3D printer traces, which before painting did not even appear, are now slightly visible.
  • THE GOOD NEWS: These printer traces, (am I lucky or not?) look like wood grains! Yeap, that suits me a lot, because what I 'm trying to simulate here, is a glider frame made of unpainted, rough & hard wood. Since other scale modelers try to replicate this exact wood texture effect, I've already have it 3D printed in front of me.


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To apply the wood grain on wide areas covered with plywood, such as the airbrakes, I used wood grain colour from artists oil paints. The higher quality artists grade paints work much better because the pigments are much more finely ground. I believe that “502 Abteilung” by MIG Productions, “Van Gogh” and “Talens” are good brands. The colour of the background coat and the oils may be varied for different kinds of wood. However, be aware that selecting a good colour combination that gives that natural look is tricky. I recommend experimenting on a test piece first before committing yourself to apply the mixture on your latest wondermodel. I arrived at my blend of "Burnt Sienna", "Yellow Ochre" and "Raw Umber" in a ratio of 25% / 25% / 50% after trying with "Raw Sienna" (too red), "Yellow Ochre" (too orange), and one or two mixed combinations.

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Once the base coat has cured, I brushed the oils with a broad, soft brush and spread the paint around until the desired colour density is achieved. Because working in oils is a little bit goes a long way, I started by putting just a little bit of paint on the end of the brush. I kept the brush strokes going in one direction and didn¢t really worry about leaving brush strokes - I wanted them there for the wood grain. I tried not to spread it on too thick, or it would make the next step more difficult.

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At this point the oils would be workable for several hours. With a broad, soft, clean and completely dry paint brush, I draged over the oil paint, leaving wood grain streaks. I jiggled the brush every now and then to give the grain a bit of variation. As the brush picked up the paint, I wiped it off on a clean, lint free cloth and continue process. “Lint free is the key phrase, as any speck of lint would adhere to the oil paint and destroy the finish. The beauty of this technique is that you can clean the oils off and try again if you goof up. Use a clean cloth and paint thinner (mineral spirits or turpenoid - not lacquer thinner) to wipe clean any mistakes and start over again. For my 1/18 scale Salamandra model, it took me about three or four tries to get the paint density and colour right, but it really was quite painless.

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In some parts of the model which should look more bright, I slightly toned up with "Buff" & "Yellow Ochre" mixtures, or even pure “Basic Flesh Tone" and “Sunny Flesh Tone", while some others had to show darker, using "Brown" or "Raw Umber" color and blend naturally. The areas marked with yellow circles supposed to be covered by plywood and the areas marked with purple circles supposed to be more bright and slightly toned up.

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As soon as the result was OK for me, I left it alone to dry for few days and then sprayed over selected areas with Tamiya Color X-24 "Clear Yellow" acrylic, because it also helps bring the grain color out more.

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Message par Nick_Karatzides Jeu 4 Juil 2013 - 5:24

CHAPTER VI - Grass field display base construction

When I started this project, I was concerned about the proper display option, on which the model would be placed. For this reason, I asked fellow modelers to advice on how they would do if in my position. Talented & world class scale modelers such as Mr. Rick Lawler from AK interactive team, honored me by sending their kind answers, suggesting what best to do according their opinion - I thank them all. Most of the responses I got, recommended simplicity & austerity with no extra diorama features. Just to place the cutaway shaped model onto a dark colour or black) shiny laminated wooden base, so that nothing would distract viewer¢s attention from main subject - the Salamandra cutaway.

Following their advice, I tried some dry fit tests with few spare laminated wooden bases I had, to check how it looked like. I tried different shades of wood and finaly black sheet of plexiglass. Evidently the visual experiment clearly proved that the model got nearly disappeared into the natural wooden base's background, regardless of whether the background was light, medium or dark wood. Since the actual IS-A frame was entirely made of wood, it seemed that placing the model on a wooden base, might not be good idea. Black plexiglass tests, also didn¢t looked right to me.

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I also received suggestions for mounting the glider on a clear pole which seemed nice idea, but model¢s cutaway stucture was too fragile to be securely pinned on a single point. I also tried to digitaly create a virtual model, with the glider placed on a concrete tarmac or shiny black ground, cut on Poland¢s map shape - since the IS-A was a typical sample of pre WWII Polish aviation design.

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I was almost sure I was going through a non-creative phase and getting ready to pack the model in a box and store it until having some good idea. Unexpectedly, I became obsessed with the idea of placing the glider model on a "grass airfield" dio base. Probably, my opinion had been shaped (aka influenced) by viewing the following two pictures, where the IS-A glider is laying on the Spring green grass.

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My goal is to recreate a scene of an aeroclub small airfield, where the old Salamandra is now resting in peace. I ¡ll try to place the glider in such a way that will look like an old time abandoned wreck, with all plywood & fabric lining removed, tilted sideways to rest on the short green grass field, with one wingtip touching the ground and the other on air. Some torn fabric & plywood parts would be also laid nearby, some rusted & cut wires, possibly a couple of Marsden matting / PSP - Pierced Steel Planking plates or maybe a waving windsock etc. could be also present in scene. In general, a picture of terse abandonment, without extreme features that could distract viewer¢s attention, keeping the glider as the main protagonist of the story. From an artistic point of view, the abandonment might possibly dictate everything to be into a state of complete wreckage. That would not be the desired result, because it would lead into a diorama scene, where the Salamandra would no longer be the protagonist. My aim is to balance the scene, while filling empty space & keeping the IS-A as the only "model" on display.

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I found the idea of a deflated windsock nice, in order to fill some empty space and break the monotony of green, while remaining in scene's background same time. Although a picture of a torn windsock would be more atractive & interesting, I had to keep it simple and not overdo. Using a small amount of Milliput putty, I made a small ball, dust it with talcum powder and pressed it against the working bench with a roller until it becomes as thin as could get. The use of talcum powder is necessary to avoid Milliput sticking on roller or fingers and get easier to handle without tearing to pieces.

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While Milliput putty was still soft, I cut it into triangle shape and rolled it up, to form into a right to scale windsock cone. Then, the cone was bended as required to look deflated and simulate cloth¢s weight. The result made of epoxy putty (seems like elephant's proboscis or its just my imagination?), left few hours to get fully polymerized and then I cut the tip to achive the correct lenght dimensions. Few epoxy overcast remains that were left, also removed during cutting process. Internal frame added later, using metal wire & styrene rod.

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Message par Nick_Karatzides Ven 5 Juil 2013 - 22:46

At present time, the windsock is under painting proccess. I used the FS31302 "Matt Red" available by Life Color as LC06 acrylic, applied with a soft brush, to establish a basic layer and later blend it, to look brighter onto the points supposedly lightened more, by spraying much diluted FS30257 "Sand Yellow RLM79VAR" available by Life Color as UA081 acrylic, just not to look too dull. After the primary painting & lighting stage, I repeatedly sprayed a very diluted mixture of thinner and FS33538 "Yellow RLM 04" available by Life Color as UA140 acrylic, at a ratio of 95% - 5%, over selected areas such as the fabric folding edges and a few other points, that IMHO should look more enlightened

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Message par Invité Ven 5 Juil 2013 - 22:59

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Message par Remmert de Bruin Sam 6 Juil 2013 - 0:55

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Message par Goose Sam 6 Juil 2013 - 9:37

Oooooh my gosh!!! You're such a master...and a crazy guy at the same time.

Amazing work!!

Looking forward to see the end on the base

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Message par Nick_Karatzides Sam 13 Juil 2013 - 23:46

Once the acrylic paint dried, the outcome had tonality differences and looked like been faded by the sun. I had obviously overdone on highlighting the areas and therefore I had to fix this and make the shades softly blend each other. To do so, I mixed artists oil paint "Red" by MIG Productions “502 Abteilung” series and artists white spirit by "Winson & Newton“ in a ratio of 5% / 95% (actually a filter) and sprayed over the windsock. I hope now it looks better than did before.

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Meanwhile I found some time to deal with the green grass. Having a couple of different methods in mind to simulate green grass in scale, I found good idea to follow an old fashioned technique! I planted some grass seeds, watered daily and I'm now expecting to grow high grass soon. I¢m just kidding of course - watering once every three days, is enough. Kids, don¢t try this at home.

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Progress has been slow for various reasons, including:

  • I'm slower than a turtle trying to climb a muddy creek bank,
  • I always find errors and later trying to develop ways to make model look more realistic,
  • Mid-July heat & expectation of upcoming vacations, caused laziness that lead building process to slow down,
  • Wife visits my bench, holding a hammer and that could possibly means that it's about time to quit 1/18 model for a while and give full attention on 1/1 model.


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Due to all the above reasons (aka excuses), once the windsock painting process complete, I had to stop for a short relaxing brake and puzzle things out. Next update ETA, late August or early September. Summer is typically the time for vacations and a good chance to relax, unwind & recharge batteries. We all need a break once in a while and I am no exception. I hope you can do the same and enjoy some well deserved time off. I will be back soon, picking up where I left off and complete this project. In the meantime, I plan to unplug, disconnect from anything for a few days, enjoy sunny beaches & crystal waters and hopefully have some SCUBA fun with playful dolphins - as happened last summer.

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